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AIRDATE: 05/17/2023 WEDNESDAY
GUEST: JOSEY SCOTT (FOUNDING MEMBER OF
SALIVA) JOSEY SCOTT’S SALIVA (2023)
0:00 SHOW INTRO-GUEST
BACKGROUND-TOPICS TO BE DISCUSSED
6:44 JOSEY SCOTT JOINS THE SHOW
7:30 WE DISCUSS HOW BOTH
“SALIVA’S” WILL EXIST AMICABLY WHERE MOST BANDS FROM THE 80’S HAVE BEEN
LITIGIOUS
9:12 ‘WE’RE NOT 2 SALIVA CAMPS,
WE’RE ONE SALIVA CAMP” “BOBBY HAS THE 2ND
HALF OF THE MATERIAL, I HAVE THE FIRST HALF OF THE MATERIAL”. “MINES MORE OF A TRIBUTE, BROADWAY SHOW TYPE
OF THING, BOBBY WILL BE DOING HIS MATERIAL”
“THERE’S NO INFIGHTING, NOTHING BUT LOVE AND
RESPECT”
10:30 HE DISCUSSES HIS FRIENDSHIP WITH BOBBY AMARU SR (BOBBY
AMARU JR’S DAD) AND SUPPORT HE GOT FROM THE AMARU’S FROM THE LOSS OF HIS OLDEST
SON CODY.
11:22 HE
EXPLAINS THE DELAY IN “SHADE VIOLENT” ALBUM AND TOUR
12:06 JOSEY DISCUSSES HOW THINGS
CHANGED GEARS WITH WAYNE SWINNY’S PASSING, AND COMMENDED THE ORGANIZATON BY
BOBBY AMARU OF THE CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR SWINNY.
13:05 “CERTAINLY BOBBY HAS MY BLESSING ON GOING OUT THERE DOING HIS THING
WITH SALIVA AND I’M GONNA DO MINE, THERE’S NO BAD BLOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,
IT’S A GOOD THING”
13:27 WE DISCUSS HOW THE FORGING OF A FRIENDSHIP WITH BOBBY AMARU
SR ALLOWED BOTH CAMPS TO NAVIGATE THE LOSS OF WAYNE SWINNY TOGETHER.
“OUT OF DEATH, SPRINGS FORTH LIFE”
14:30 JOSEY CONTINUES TO WEIGH IN ON THE LOSS OF HIS CHILD. “I GOOGLED “LOSING A CHILD” AND GOOGLE POPPED
BACK “THE ULTIMATE TRAGEDY” “I WOULDN’T WISH THAT ON MY WORST ENEMY”.
-NOTE THAT MONDAY MAY 22, 2023, WILL BE ONE
YEAR SINCE HIS SON’S PASSING
16:45 THROUGH
THE RELATIONSHIP WITH BOBBY AMARU SR, JOSEY AND BOBBY AMARU JR HAD ALREADY
DISCUSSED MUSICAL COLLABORATIONS.
18:31 WE
DISCUSS THE FAILED REUNION OF JOSEY SCOTT AND SALIVA AS WELL AS THE BLUE RIDGE
FESTIVAL APPEARANCE, WHICH WOULD BE ONLY AND LAST APPEARANCE OF JOSEY SCOTT
WITH WAYNE SWINNY.
19:30 “A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED WAS MY FAULT, BECAUSE I HADN’T
BEEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN 10 YEARS”.
“WHAT A DIFFERENCE 10 YEARS MAKES”! -JOSEY SCOTT ON THE FAILED
SALIVA REUNION
HE GOES ON TO SAY WITH COVID, HIS SON GETTING SICK AND AS THE “WORLD JUST
SHIFTED GEARS”, CHANGES IN THE INDUSTRY, THE REUNION “JUST IMPLODED AFTER
THAT”.
21:08 HE
GOES ONTO REFLECT ON THE BLUE RIDGE FESTIVAL OPPORTUNITY THAT HAPPENED IN
SEPTEMBER OF 2022. “I WAS IN A BETTER
POSITION TO SAY YES TO THAT OPPORTUNITY”.
21:30 “I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS GONNA BE THE LAST TIME I WOULD
EVER GET TO WALK ON STAGE WITH WAYNE SWINNY AND I’M JUST SO GLAD WE GOT TO PLAY
THAT GIG TOGETHER”
“THE UNIVERSE ABSOLUTELY KNOWS WHAT IT’S DOIN’”
WITH RESPECT TO THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT OF A REUNION/ TOUR: “MAYBE WASN’T
MEAN TO BE IN THAT FORM, IN THAT CONNOTATION” “IF THAT’S THE CASE, I’M GLAD IT
DIDN’T HAPPEN AND I’M GLAD WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE BLUE RIDGE”.
22:55 WE
DISCUSS WHAT IT WAS LIKE JOINING THE BAND IN FRONT OF A REPORTED 60-100k PEOPLE
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER A DECADE WITH THE NEW SINGER ON THE SIDE OF THE
STAGE.
“IT WAS
ABSOLUTE MAGIC MAN”
24:20 HE TALKS ABOUT BEING NERVOUS BEFORE GOING ON STAGE AND HIS
WIFE WALKED OVER AND SAID WHAT HE NEEDED TO HEAR TO GET ON STAGE: SHE SAID, “YOU BELONG HERE”
“AFTER SHE SAID THAT, IT JUST CENTERED ME”.
“I’M ACTUALLY GONNA GET A TATTOO THAT SAYS “YOU BELONG HERE”
26:25 WE
DISCUSSED ODD JOBS THAT JOSEY DID WHILE ON HIATUS AFTER LEAVING SALIVA.
HE TALKS ABOUT
DOING DRUG COUNSELING FOR THE SHERIFF’S DEPT FOR 3 YEARS IN HIS HOMETOWN
(BEFORE MOVING TO TULSA) AFTER GETTING CLEAN OFF OF PRESCRIBED MEDICATIONS.
IN 2016, HE TOOK “PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST” CLASSES IN TULSA TO HELP
VETERANS, HOMELESS AND OTHERS THAT DIDN’T HAVE RESOURCES TO FIND DRUG AND
ALCOHOL REHAB.
“IT WAS ALMOST AS GOOD A FOOD FOR THE SOUL AS MUSIC IS”
30:00 WE TALK ABOUT JOSEY JOINING
POISON ON STAGE LAST SUMMER IN TULSA, OK AT THE BOK CENTER.
“ME AND BRET HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD FRIENDS OVER
THE YEARS, HE’S ALWAYS BEEN REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF MY CAREER AND MY COMEBACK”.
“IT WAS A DREAM COME TRUE TO GET TO GET ON STAGE WITH MY HEROES IN FRONT OF A
SOLD OUT CROWD”
32:09 WE ASK THE QUESTION IF JOSEY SCOTT’S
SALIVA WILL WRITE NEW MUSIC OR JUST TOUR PERFORMING THE SONGS FROM THE JOSEY
SCOTT’S SALIVA ERA.
“I’VE THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THAT, AND FOR RIGHT NOW,
I’M JUST GONNA KEEP, WHAT I CALL “DELIVERING THE PACKAGE””.
HE GOES ON TO
TALK ABOUT TOURING THE NORTH AMERICAN MARKETS, EUROPE AND SOUTH AMERICA.
“MUSIC IS MEDICATION, MUSIC IS MEDICINE TO PEOPLE THAT ARE HURTING”
-JOSEY SCOTT
35:40 I ASK WHY JOSEY SCOTT DIDN’T JUST CALL THE BAND
SALIVA.
“I DON’T WANT TO
CONFUSE THE MARKET AND I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT THEY’RE GETTING, I WAS GONE
FOR 10 YEARS, AND WHEN PEOPLE HAVE SEEN SALIVA (THE PAST 10 YEARS), THEY’VE
SEEN THE “BOBBY ERA” AND I JUST WANT IT TO BE CLEAR TO PEOPLE WHAT VERSION
THEY’RE GOING TO SEE”
37:30 “I JUST WANNA LET THE PEOPLE KNOW WHICH DRUG THEY’RE GETTIN’”
37:35 WE DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL THE NEW SONG “HORIZON” THAT
WAS WRITTEN AND RECORDED BY WAYNE SWINNY ALONG WITH JOSEY SCOTT AND BOBBY AMARU
WHO ARE WRITING AND COMPLETING THE VERSES DUBBED WAYNE SWINNY’S “SWAN SONG”
JOSEY GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT THE CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR WAYNE SWINNY AND
REFERENCES THAT AT THE END OF THE EVENING AS BOBBY AMARU FINISHED HIS THOUGHTS,
THE SONG WAS PLAYED ON THE CLOSING PHOTOS
A VERSION OF THE SONG CAN BE FOUND HERE
FROM VIDEO AT THE MEMORIAL DURING THE CLOSING OF THE CELEBRATION OF WAYNE
SWINNY’S LIFE
https://youtu.be/F89QAvDpsMU?t=199
39:20 WHEN JOSEY ASKED BOBBY
ABOUT THE SONG, BOBBY NOTED “THAT WAS THE LAST SONG WE RECORDED TOGETHER”
BOBBY SAID “HEY
MAN, WHY DON’T WE GET INTO THE STUDIO TOGETHER AND YOU CAN WRITE THE 2ND
VERSE, AND THE CHORUS IF YOU WANT TO, & WE’LL DO THIS TOGETHER, SINCE
IT’S WAYNE SWINNY’S SWAN SONG. WE’LL DO THIS
AS THE BEGINNING LEAD SINGER AND THE CURRENT LEAD SINGER””
41:45 JOSEY CONFIRMS THAT WAYNE
SWINNY DID IN FACT RECORD GUITARS ON THIS SONG AND IT IS HIS LAST SOLO
RECORDED.
“IT’S ONE OF THE BEST LEADS HE’S EVER PLAYED, IT
WILL MAKE THE HAIR ON THE BACK OF YOUR NECK STAND UP”
JOSEY HOPES
TO GET HIS VOCALS DONE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO (SUMMER OF 2023).
43:00 WE GO ON TO RECAP A FEW OF THE UPCOMING DATES, MENTION
JOSEYSCOTTROCKS.COM AND THEIR APPEARANCE AT NOTABLE STOPS AT THE STURGIS RALLY,
WHISKY A GOGO OF WHICH HE’S NEVER PLAYED.
44:45 JOSEY
MENTIONS HIS BAND WHICH INCLUDES HIS SON AS WELL.
45:40 JOSEY
DISCUSSES BRIEFLY ABOUT BEING BACK ON THE ROAD AFTER MORE THAN A DECADE.
“IT FEELS
AMAZING MAN, I ENJOY IT EVEN MORE NOW” “I KNOW HOW TO BE GRATEFUL AND MORE
THANKFUL FOR IT” “I GET TO DO IT WITH A SOBER MIND AND A CLEAR HEAD, IT’S JUST
A BLESSING AND THANKFUL TO THE FANS”.
48:15 INTERVIEW
RECAP
48:56 END OF SHOW CREDITS INFO ETC
