What are the linkages between the crises of biodiversity loss and climate change? How can we effectively recognise the value of nature and the climate in our societies? What does it mean to live within our planetary boundaries? In this episode Rebecca Nohl, Science Advisor for the landmark Dasgupta Review on the Economics of Biodiversity and Associate at think tank SYSTEMIQ, explains what’s wrong with how we currently measure success and what we can do about it.

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