In 2012, in the midst of opening Kairos Kafe Gardendale, James experienced loss in a way he never would have imagined, when his Granny went to Heaven. Almost simultaneously, Haley was walking through the same grief with the loss of her Dad, who unexpectedly went to Heaven… In this episode James gives Haley great detail about the relationship he had with “his person” and the legacy she has left on their family…

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