An interview with Michele Hansen. Michele is the founder of Geocodio, a startup she founded without taking external funding. She is also the author of "Deploy Empathy", a book that aims to help product teams & founders to get better at user research & get the insights they need.
We speak about a lot, including:
Why now was the time for a new book on customer interviewing skills, how it's different to other books on discovery
How the book has gone down, some of the feedback that she's gotten so far, and how she knew it had done the job she wanted it to
How to introduce customer research into companies which aren't currently up for it & sell the idea to leadership
Whether the techniques in the book constitute manipulation and whether she's worried they could be used for evil
Whether the book teaches you to be truly empathetic or is a guide to fake it till you make it, and whether this matters
How you don't need users to have empathy with you, and have to channel your inner rubber duck to make sure they open up to you
The importance of validating not just hypotheses but also validating your users by resisting the urge to correct their mistakes
Why you shouldn't use customer discovery interviews to try to sneak in sales or directly try to stop people churning
And much more!
Buy Deploy Empathy
"Deploy Empathy will help you learn the skill of talking to your customers—learning to truly listen to them—so that you can pull out their hidden needs, desires, and processes. Empathy is a skill that anyone can learn. Armed with the tactics you’ll learn in this book and the toolbox of scripts and phrases, you'll be able to sell more of your existing product, build the right features that will delight your customers, and stop churn in its tracks."
Visit the book website or check it out on Amazon or Goodreads.
Contact Michele
You can contact Michele on Twitter or check out deployempathy.com.
