On this puzzling episode, we're joined by crossword constructor and senior staff editor of the New York Times WordPlay column Deb Amlen (@DebAmlen)! We chat about puzzles, pickling, how scary a text with a period is, "I Think You Should Leave", Terror Management Theory, ASMR, and more! It's a lovely time and we hope you enjoy the convo as much as we did. Follow us on Twitter at @leightonnight and on Instagram at @leighton_night. You can find Brian on Twitter/Instagram at @bwecht, and Leighton at @graylish (Twitter)/@buttchamps (Instagram).

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