Ali Maxwell & George Elek speak to players who've completed the EFL - playing in all four top leagues in England.
This week the lads speak to Michael Kightly, who went on a meteoric rise from non-league to playing a key role as Wolves won the Championship title in 2008-09 before realising his dream of playing in the Premier League for Burnley, Stoke and Wolves.
Michael made 39 appearances in his final season at League One Southend, the club with which he started his career.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Podden och tillhörande omslagsbild på den här sidan tillhör The Athletic. Innehållet i podden är skapat av The Athletic och inte av, eller tillsammans med, Poddtoppen.
