Hi Ohana, 

today I have Australian singer/songwriter Ben Camden with me. He told me how he wrote his single "Salt" by testing it on crows while busking and what benefits came from it. He said that he never regrets busking because he always learns something very valuable from that you can't learn any other way.  

We had a chat about how challenging performing is and what he's done to overcome stage fright.  

Have fun!   

Follow Ben on IG @bencamdenmusic  

Listen to Ben's songs on Spotify & iTunes   

Follow me on Instagram @alise.koa  

Learn more about songwriting at www.alisekoa.com

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