Zibby speaks to perinatal psychiatrist and New York Times contributor Pooja Lakshmin, MD, about her compassionate and actionable new book Real Self Care: A Transformative Program for Redefining Wellness (Crystals, Cleanses, and Bubble Baths Not Included). Dr. Lakshmin discusses her New York Times article, “This is Betrayal, Not Burnout,” which argues women are burnt out because their social systems have failed them. Then, she dives into “real self-care” – an internal, self-reflective process that includes learning to set boundaries and letting go of mom guilt. Finally, she talks about her IVF journey, her mental health platform (Gemma), and what it was like to write this book!

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