Pod Save the King is in South Africa this week with Daily Mirror royal editor Russell Myers and photographer Ian Vogler reporting from Cape Town.
Our roving royal reporters have been following William's visit for the Earthshot Prize, the prestigious environmental awards he set up in 2020.
Russell and Ian discuss the emotional language used by the Prince of Wales in his "searingly honest" interview about his "hardest year", where he spoke candidly about the difficulties his family has faced with their recent health diagnoses.
They also chat about William's growing role as a statesman and diplomat, including his meeting with the South African president Cyril Ramaphosa, with Ian describing it as "less tiaras and crowns, and more firm handshakes and big conversations on big issues".
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