Mal Blum joins John and Joseph to talk about making a living as an artist and their relationship with fans. Check out Mal’s latest album, Pity Boy, here: https://lnk.to/Pityboy. The Mountain Goats’ In League With Dragons is out now on Merge Records. Get it at mergerecords.com/in-league-with-dragons . For more information, go to ionlylistentothemountaingoats.com. From Night Vale Presents. Produced by Christy Gressman.

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