In the second part of Colin Murray’s chat with Billy Bragg, the musician talks about how he found his voice, trying to see his lyrics through dry ice on Top of the Pops, adapting New England for Kirsty MacColl and getting instruments into prisons.

Midnight Meets is part of Colin Murray’s BBC Radio 5 Live show which is on Monday to Wednesday 10.30pm to 1am - or available whenever you want via the free BBC Sounds app.

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