In this episode Ben and Aaron are joined by author and pastor Andy Stanley to talk about his new book, "Not in It to Win It: Why Choosing Sides Sidelines the Church". They talk about how we as a church attempt to use the tools of the kingdoms of this world to solve problems in the church, which never accomplishes what we intend it to.To learn more about Andy Stanley, visit andystanley.comFollow BenInstagram: DavidInstagram: ChadInstagram: LukeInstagram:

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