Host Jesse Jackson welcomes returning guest Arlen Schumer, who discusses his Twilight Zone book and debates standout episodes including “Eye of the Beholder,” “To Serve Man,” and “Walking Distance,” while previewing a September webinar deconstructing “Shadow Play.” Schumer then shares his opening-day visit to the newly renamed Bruce Springsteen Center for American Music, praising its first-class architecture, interior design, and dense, well-presented exhibits, including a detail about matching wood to Bruce’s guitar. The conversation ranges into Springsteen’s influences, the “Boss” nickname, Bruce’s cultural stature compared with Elvis, Dylan, The Beatles, and Hendrix, and the role of managers Mike Appel and Jon Landau in his career. Schumer also notes rising interest from Black audiences via reaction videos and plugs his website and upcoming events. https://arlenschumer.com/

00:00 Patreon Thanks 01:29 Meet Arlen 02:03 Twilight Zone Favorites 07:47 Serling Legacy Today 11:13 Twilight Zone Meets Bruce 13:07 Springsteen Center Opens 14:21 Design Details Tour 20:48 Why Not The Boss 21:48 Bruce As The King 27:06 Biopic Scenes And Myth 30:02 Appel Hammond Landau 36:28 Appel Versus Landau 38:11 Outtakes And Alternate Albums 39:17 Bruce As Generational Icon 41:10 Dylan Beatles And Jungleland 48:05 Modesty Influences And Museum 51:47 Unreleased Songs Deep Dive 54:59 Archives Beyond Bruce 56:42 Race Audience And Reaction Videos 01:02:47 Where To Find Arlen 01:03:51 Twilight Zone Events 01:06:47 Farewell And Listener Outro

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