In this episode of the 5 Leadership Questions podcast, Todd Adkins and Chandler Vannoy are joined by Brett Hagler. Hagler is the CEO and co-founder of New Story. They discuss being obsessive about learning and taking calculated risks for the Kingdom.


"For myself and even my exec team and the directors I work closely with, I need to care, first and foremost, about who they are becoming from a character standpoint and a leadership standpoint than what they are achieving.""When you are at work, there needs to be a real desire to want to be stretched and to be obsessive about learning and growing.""If you are growing at a certain pace and taking on new challenges, you have to make sure the people under you are excited about that and want to do that and are willing to put in the effort to do so." "Learning these challenges actually creates our biggest opportunities for the innovations or what we want to bring to solve the challenges.""I got on my knees and said God, I have no clue why this is happening, but I am going to trust that You have something coming next that could be better and could be bigger, and I then thought of New Story about four months after that.""The more calculated risks we can take, if it's something we have a conviction on and feel pulled to by the Spirit, go for it!""I would try to pair an obsession with learning with a bias toward action.""I figured out I could put intentional time in to learn from other entrepreneurs or pastors that inspired me, I could consistently learn and take action as well.""If you just have action and you are not obsessed with learning, it is hard to mature and grow and get better."


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