This week, Lucy Dallas and Alex Clark discuss roses, Orwell and rhizomatic thinking with Margaret Drabble; Kathryn Hughes is our guide through histories of self-improvement; plus, what log-rolling really means.

'Orwell's Roses' by Rebecca Solnit

'The Art of Self-Improvement' by Anna Katharina Schaffner

The Log Driver's Waltz: https://www.nfb.ca/film/log_drivers_waltz

Produced by Sophia Franklin

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