Our guest for this episode is the wonderful Elle Wright! She tells us all about her brilliant new book, A Bump in the Road: A Story of Fertility, Hope and Trying Again. 

We talk about Elle's experience of IVF after baby loss. She tells us about dealing with well-meaning but painful comments, and how the online community of women living with infertility helped her through. 

Plus, of course, we cover some serious subjects, like being obsessed with your baby's ear wax, and whether it's OK to feed animals with your mouth. Elle's ace book is out now. You can find her on Instagram @feathering_the_empty_nest.

Thank you so much to Meg and Bee for sponsoring this episode. We properly love their bags - they are beautifully made, gorgeous to look at, and hold all of our junk. Do check out their website to see the awesome range of colours, straps and tassles available: megandbee.co.uk. AND we have a discount code for you - save 15% off everything (except Liberty and deckchair straps) until the end of May! Just use the code SCUMMYMUMS15.

SAFETY NOTICE: This podcast was recorded remotely, which is why it sounds a bit different - sorry about that. We're doing our best, and we'll be back to sitting in Ellie's garden with our guests very soon.

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**SEE US LIVE!** We are planning to be back on tour this summer! Book now - tickets are refundable or transferable, so no worries if it all goes tits up. Visit scummymummies.com for dates and tickets. 

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