Jordan Erica Webber chats to Fabian Wosar, a renowned anti-ransomware expert, who has worked on thousands of cases during his career. The victims that Fabian helps love him. The ransomware hackers he thwarts – not so much. He talks about the sacrifices he has made for the job he loves. Help support our independent journalism at <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/chipspod">theguardian.com/chipspod</a>
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