Rylan is joined by trainspotter Francis Bourgeois to discuss becoming an overnight internet sensation. Francis tells Rylan about his tricky teenage years and growing up as an outsider, confronting accusations that his train persona is “fake”, and trainspotting with Joe Jonas.

Rylan explores the good, the bad and the ugly of being thrust into the spotlight - with those who've lived to tell the tale.

Host: Rylan

Assistant Producer: Satema Tarawally

Edit Producer: Katie Grant

Producer: Millie Chu

Production Manager: Francesca Bassett

Executive Producers: Barnaby Coughlin and Arron Fellows

Music: Miguel d'Oliveira

Assistant Commissioner: Will Drysdale

Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

A Mindhouse production for BBC Sounds

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