Deborah Hanekamp, a.k.a. healer Mama Medicine, thought she could never have children. When she was a young woman, doctors found fibroids on her ovaries and told her that getting pregnant would be very unlikely for her. She made peace with it but when years later she met the love of her life, a Dutchman Herman Hanekamp, out of the blue she did get pregnant. They have a daughter, now a 7-year-old Munay. Deborah herself is a sought-after healer, seeress, and shaman who was trained in the Peruvian Amazon for eight years. Since then, she came up with her very own ‘Medicine Readings’, loved amongst the editors of Vogue and the artist Alicia Keys. She opened Space by Mama Medicine, an online membership community with various spiritual offerings, and wrote the bestselling book Ritual Baths. In this episode, Deborah shares her extraordinary life story. She talks about ‘spirit babies’, her take on motherhood from a spiritual point of view, the aura she sees around pregnant women, and how to enhance children’s natural energetic gifts.

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