What will it take to build a wiser, kinder world? That’s what sociologist, teacher, researcher and coach Holiday Phillips’ work is all about. In this episode she talks about her own cultural upbringing, growing up in an almost entirely white community in London as the daughter of second-generation immigrants. Her mother’s family is part of a small tribe of Indians called Parsis, her father’s family is Guyanese. Holiday reflects back on the op-ed that she wrote about performative allyship that went viral and gained her thousands of new followers, while in hindsight she says she would have written something different today. In this interview she shares many great insights about racial justice, really connecting with one another and staying true to yourself. She thinks about past and future generations, especially now that she is pregnant with her first child. Finally, she opens up about the mental and physical transformations during pregnancy and her valuable experiences with being a stepmother. A week after this chat, Holiday gave birth to a healthy baby.

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