The frontwoman of one of the hottest new bands in metal talks transphobic media bias, and a power metal epic turns out to be queer metaphor overload, in the latest queer take on metal.

Katie Davies from UK mathy grinders Pupil Slicer is the latest voice from those members of the LGBT+ community who make metal happen. She chats to Tom about the band's lyrics, and some of the LGBT+ issues they cover, including the transphobia inherent in much of the current media climate.

Matt and Tom also discuss 'Larger Than Life', the 2014 epic by Sonata Arctica, and find the whole thing awash with relevance to the queer experience, and coming out especially.

Plus the entries for the Hate Crew Gaybar jukebox are the new Orden Ogan album, Final Days, and Exanimis' debut record Marionnettiste. One of which needed a peace treaty to be signed before discussions could begin.

There's also shocking revelations about a gap in Matt's blockbuster movie knowledge, and Tom steps in two massive gay clichés.

(Also Matt's mic gets possessed by a gremlin for one second around the 45 minute mark. We're sorry about that. We will stop feeding it after midnight.)

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