Growth with no reward. Finding strength in your less desirable traits. Coming up with the perfect comeback hours later in bed, glaring at the ceiling. Asking yourself: am I improving, or am I just changing into something unrecognizable? Chicago quartet Ganser probe the futility of striving for self-growth during the chaos of our times for dark comedy and jagged sounds on their potent new album Just Look at That Sky, released July 31st on Felte.

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Welcome to my conversation with bassist, vocalist and award-winning art director Alicia Gaines. Visit penfriend.rocks/alicia for the posh show notes with links to explore her work, and visit speakpipe.com/penfriend to contribute to a future episode.

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