Gabby sits with her hermana from another mother, writer Vanessa Martir to talk about queer motherhood and professional rebirth. Vanessa shares her deeply personal experience of having a mom who didn’t show her love. She calls it being “unmothered” and teaches others how to write through the pain. Gabby also gets the scoop on Vanessa’s hot-carpenter-butch wife and they explore the age old question of - “Do you put a plastic bag in your rice?”
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