Keith is joined by Katy Milkman, Professor at the University of Pennsylvania, host of the Choiceology podcast and author of 'How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be.' They discuss techniques for making real change including tricks to motivate yourself that work. Katy explains temptation bundling and commitment devices along with many other tools to achieve goals.

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