In part 2 of our interview with Barbara Heidenreich, she discusses challenges, and their solutions, to applying the Constructional Aggression Treatment with various exotic animals in zoological settings. Through sharing some amazing stories, she explains the importance of why our training procedures need to be functional. Please enjoy this wonderful episode!

Below are the links we mentioned during the episode:

  • If you are interested in learning more about Barbara's work, you can go to her website at You can become a member of her virtual learning program and learn about her work using Constructional Approach in many different zoos!
  • To register for a newly launched group class "Introduction to the Science of Behavior (Part 1)," please visit this link:
  • To register for the video-on-demand CAAWT conference, please visit the link below.  If you are currently working at an animal shelter, animal hospital, zoo, or student/professor, we offer 50% off the video-on-demand registration. 
    • Register from here:
    • **We will open the registration link (above) until September 30th at 11:59 pm. And, once you purchase it, you will have unlimited access to the presentation videos until October 31st at 11:59 pm.

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