This is an episode that's been a long time coming! Mary interviews her 13-year-old sister Ilana! In this heartfelt conversation, Mary and Ilana talk about...

- Ilana's top 3 styling tips

- how they maintain such a close relationship despite their 10-year age gap

- how adults can support middle schoolers' mental health

- their thoughts on Gen Zers

- ... and so much more!

If you are a sibling, auntie, parent, or gaurdian, we hope this conversation warms your heart and helps you remember what it was like to be 13!

And feel free to take a screenshot of the episode and tag @maryspodcast in your IG stories!

Mentioned in This Episode...

Mary's TEDx Talk: [https://youtu.b](https://youtu.b

Katie Chock's TEDx Talk on Battling the Toxic Male Nerd Culture:

Ilana's favorite anime: [Jibaku Shounen Hanako-kun ](

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