And you say Chi city! This week, the boys are in the Windy City for a breezy conversation with hip-hop luminary, Fake Shore Drive’s Andrew Barber. Andrew was kind enough to secure the House of Vans so we could pod in an empty skatepark on how rap media has changed over the last 15 years, blog era payola, whether or not he’s ever tried to spit, his favorite ephemera, a definitive top 5 dead or alive and goat, career-making cosigns, getting name dropped in bars, Snoop Dogg being the best interview, how to discover new music in 2022, is TikTok good or bad for music, why his artist Valee is the most interesting man in hip-hop, 10 years of Finally Rich, the complicated politics of Chicago’s Drill scene, 2023 musical predictions, Fredo Santana was actually a sweetheart, guilty pleasure tunes, clickbait listicle apocalypse and much more on this super knowledgeable and speaker knocking episode of The Only Podcast That Matters™.

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