This bonus episode is a further conversation between Kim and David Kessler, an expert in grief who contributed to Episode 10.

Binge early and ad free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App https://wondery.app.link/confronting.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Podden och tillhörande omslagsbild på den här sidan tillhör GLASS | Wondery. Innehållet i podden är skapat av GLASS | Wondery och inte av, eller tillsammans med, Poddtoppen.