Rekka: 00:00 Welcome back to We Make Books, a podcast about writing, publishing and everything, everything, everything in between. And sometimes after.

Kaelyn: 00:07 Sometimes after. I'm Kaelyn Considine. I am the acquisitions editor for Parvus Press.

Rekka: 00:12 And I'm Rekka, I write science fiction and fantasy as RJ Theodore.

Kaelyn: 00:16 And today we're talking about that after.

Rekka: 00:17 Huh. Whoa. Yeah. So folks,

Kaelyn: 00:21 Yeah, just... This is a little bit of a heavy episode.

Rekka: 00:23 Sliiiiightly.

Kaelyn: 00:26 Um, we're talking today about money, but not in the way we talked about money in our previous money episode. Which was episode nine, uh, if you want to go back and check that out.

Rekka: 00:36 Yep. Um, that's the other half of the, well, the other third, I don't know, there's probably many more pieces of this conversation.

Kaelyn: 00:40 There's a lot of pieces. Yeah.

Rekka: 00:42 But you can, you can brush up on that episode if you're thinking about money for your writing career lately. Um, this episode will cover a lot of other stuff, so they don't really overlap that much.

Kaelyn: 00:53 Yeah. This is the episode... So before we talked about how you get your money, this is after you get your money...

Rekka: 01:01 How to not lose it all.

Kaelyn: 01:02 And...

Rekka: 01:04 Unless you want to!

Kaelyn: 01:05 Unless you want to.

Rekka: 01:06 Blow chunks of money, all you want.

Kaelyn: 01:09 Yeah. Um, so we talk a lot in this episode about, you know, when you hear numbers, what those then actually come down to and setting realistic goals and expectations for yourself and you know, just some general things to know about how money works in publishing, especially if this is going to be your primary or only source of income.

Rekka: 01:31 Right. And I think the biggest takeaway from this episode, um, is clearly the attitude that we come at our money with in the writing industry.

Kaelyn: 01:42 Yeah. So, um, you know, it is, it is a little bit of a heavy episode. Um, it's a lot. We...

Rekka: 01:46 It's a lot, but I mean, it's not like we get into specific—

Kaelyn: 01:50 No, no.

Rekka: 01:51 We did some rough math at the beginning.

Kaelyn: 01:53 Just for an example.

Rekka: 01:54 But we're not talking about like, OK, and then you move this amount of money over here into these—

Kaelyn: 02:00 Yeah do not take advice from us on that.

Rekka: 02:03 We're not offering specific investment advice. What we are trying to offer is like the mindset by which you, uh, pay attention to your writing income and how that can build into your life in whatever way you dream your life taking shape.

Kaelyn: 02:20 Yup. So, um, you know, we hope you find this episode helpful.

Rekka: 02:24 Yeah, we really, we debated doing this topic, but the fact is that Kaelyn came up with this podcast as all the things we didn't know about publishing and didn't know who to ask. And so this is definitely in that category.

Kaelyn: 02:41 And you know, as we talked about, like in the first money episode we did, there is this taboo around it. And this is a different kind of taboo because this isn't talking about, you know, how much money they agreed to give you. This is talking about now dealing with the money they agreed to give you. So, um, you know, take a listen. Like I said, it's a little, it's, it's a lot in this episode, but it's important. So, um, yeah, we hope you enjoy, we hope you find it informational.

Rekka: 03:08 Yeah. I mean you may not enjoy this so much per se, but yeah, this one is important, I think. If... You may want to set aside, if you're just like, you know, doing something where you're only half listening, I honestly would say come back a little bit later and give this one your full attention. And I'm not just saying that because we were the ones talking.

Kaelyn: 03:27 No, no.

Rekka: 03:28 But that's a very good reason. All right everybody take a listen to this episode and you know, hit us up online if you have any questi

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