Matt finally fulfills his longtime dream of talking to a believer in the QAnon conspiracy theory. The reason it took so long to find a suitable QAnon-believing guest isn’t because Q-Heads are hard to find. (Believe it or not, they’re actually easy to find.) It’s because most of them are rigid and illogical, which would have resulted in a not-so-great episode. But eventually Matt found his man: Martin Geddes. More than just a Q-Head, Martin actually subscribes to many of what most people call ‘conspiracy theories’ — from the popular (9/11 was an inside job) to the not-so popular (Obama was a ‘Manchurian Candidate’-style foreign agent). Despite their disagreements, Matt and Martin manage to have a civil and surprisingly enlightening conversation about Martin’s ideas, Matt’s concerns with them, the allures and pitfalls of believing in conspiracy theories, and why so many of us desire safety and certainty at seemingly any cost.

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