“If we insist on keeping Hell (or even earth) we shall not see Heaven: if we accept Heaven we shall not be able to retain even the smallest and most intimate souvenirs of Hell.”

 

― C.S. Lewis, The Great Divorce

 

In this episode we are delighted to welcome to the show David Bates, co-host of the Pints with Jack podcast. He joins Phoebe and Rachel to discuss The Great Divorce, C.S. Lewis’ imaginary supposition of Hell, Purgatory and Heaven. We talk about how Lewis demonstrates the ways that sin traps us and prevents us from entering into the joy of heaven, as well as Lewis’ unique ability to capture the vital energy and attraction of virtue. 

 

Check out David’s podcast: Pints with Jack 

@PintswithJack on: Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube

Check out David’s wife Marie’s podcast: Pints with Chesterton 

 

Hosts: Rachel Sherlock, Phoebe Watson, David Bates

Music: Ashton Manor by Kevin MacLeod

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Works mentioned in this episode:

 

The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis

The Marriage of Heaven and Hell by William Blake

Inaugural Homily, Pope Benedict XVI

New Seeds of Contemplation by Thomas Merton

“The Age of Anxiety” by W.H. Auden

The Four Loves by C.S. Lewis

The Weight of Glory by C.S. Lewis

The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R Tolkien

Leaf by Niggle by J.R.R. Tolkien

The Misquotable C.S. Lewis: What He Didn't Say, What He Actually Said, and Why It Matters by William O’Flaherty

 

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