Aaron chats with Tovar Cerulli, speaker, conservationist, and author of the book, "Mindful Carnivore: A Vegetarian's Hunt for Sustenance". We cover a life in the outdoors, the transition from vegetarian to vegan to hunter, his work in conservation, and making connections between people who care about wildlife.
https://tovarcerulli.com/
Show notes:
2:33 – Tovar’s early season kayak adventures
4:48 – Tovar’s childhood outdoors
6:45 – when, how, and why Tovar became a vegetarian
9:40 – the rationale and ideas that made Tovar shift away from vegetarianism
11:30 – when Tovar began to realize agriculture’s impact on wild animals
14:20 – Aaron’s animal ethics course in graduate school
16:45 – the transformation to hunting
20:38 – how Tovar received much less negative feedback about being a hunter than he thought he would
24:40 – peers and neighbors who helped Tovar establish his hunting identity
29:10 – Tovar never imagining being a hunter, a writer or a public speaker
30:45 – building bridges between hunters, environmentalists, and vegetarians
33:24 - Tovar’s journey into a professional life in conservation
36:40 – Tovar’s work on the “Relevancy Roadmap”
42:45 – how we can diversify wildlife funding and bring more people into conservation
49:20 – the resistance by users to pay for conservation
52:55 – talking about hunting in an inviting and connecting way
56:12 – not making assumptions about non-hunters
59:30 – the biggest issues facing hunters and anglers today
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