Ep 39 – MI with people who are homeless

In exploring MI with people who are homeless, Glenn and Sebastian, warmly welcome Danny Lang, MSW to the podcast. Danny has over 25 years’ experience in the field of mental health and substance misuse.  He currently works as a registered social worker, psychotherapist at the Canadian Mental Health Association in Ottawa Canada where he provides group and individual therapy for individuals with co-occurring mental health and substance use disorders. Danny is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers and his areas of interest include homelessness, concurrent disorders and working with ale survivors of sexual abuse.

0:00 – Opening/introduction

1:10 – Danny’s introduction and early MI story

9:00 – MI Spirit as the “container” of the four processes

13:50 – Resisting the “righting reflex”

17:40 – Client feedback as evidence of effectiveness

24:00 – Self-care

27:50 – Danny’s “walk and talks”

34:30 – It’s not always about MI

42:00 – Helpful skills for helpful conversations

45:45 – Danny’s life in the martial arts

49:24 – End of recording

Links and contact information:

– Email: [email protected]

– Instagram: @dannylang613

Links and contact information:

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Email: [email protected]


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