About this Episode   In this episode, Charlie talks with Z about his very unique career through the green building industry after earning multiple degrees. Z Smith decided to get his Master’s degree in Architecture after he already had a Bachelor’s in Physics and PhD in Electrical Engineering/Computer Science. Yes, you read that right. His career also includes a variety of experiences with pioneering brands and countries including Xerox, RCA Labs and the Japanese government.   Key Talking Points   Why Z Smith became interested in the “green” movement The journey Z Smith took from physics through electrical engineering and computer science to architecture The importance of internal researchers within architecture firms Setting up feedback loops and learning from the outcomes What are we really trying to get the building to do, elegantly, with the least amount of materials Finding resistance when hiring Picking up the pace with rating systems and raise the standards in communities   Key Milestones of the Episode [1:40] Z Smith’s background [2:34] The university job that introduced Z Smith to the sustainable industry [5:57] The start of Z Smith’s journey into architecture [7:49] What is happening behind the scenes on the research side [10:50] What frustrated Z Smith the most in architecture [14:46] Touchstone throughout career  [18:29] Tracking our work [23:13] Applying rigor to a practice [27:15] David Lake’s Spice Girl moment [31:49] Rating systems have a place but we need to pick up the pace   Key Quotes “At the time I was going to college, it was the late 70’s. We were just getting through the energy crisis and it looked like if we didn’t solve problems with energy, we were going to end up in some war with the Middle East.” “In fact, if you pick up your iPhone or smartphone, you are actually looking at a field of amorphous silicate.” “Many of our clients would love to have an energy efficient building if not a net zero building but they just assume that it is not possible and not practical.” “My main gift is to convince people that things are possible.”   Key Resource   Get in Contact with Z Smith Z Smith is the Director of Sustainability and Building Performance at Eskew+Dumez+Ripple and an associate professor of architecture at Tulane University, and a speaker on sustainability issues. Don’t forget to catch more episodes and resources for all of your green building news at the website   Connect with Charlie Cichetti and GBES:   GBES is excited our membership community is growing.  Consider joining our membership community as members are given access to some of the guests on the podcasts that you can ask project questions. If you are preparing for an exam, there will be more insurances that you will pass your next exam, you will be given cliff notes if you are a member, and so much more. Go to to learn more about the 4 different levels of access to this one-of-a-kind career-advancing green building community! If you truly enjoyed the show, don't forget to leave a positive rating and review on .  We have prepared more episodes for the upcoming weeks, so come by again next week! Thank you for tuning in to the !   Copyright © 2019 GBES

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