This week on the Calmer You Podcast I speak with Julia Samuel, Author of Grief Works and her new book This Too Shall Pass. We chat about:* What is the ‘fertile void’?* How busyness stops us from healing * How to handle changes in your life * What to say to someone who is grieving* The particular struggles that millennials faceTranscriptChloe: Hello, and welcome to the Calmer You Podcast. This is your host Chloe Brotheridge. Welcome. I am a coach, a hypnotherapist, and I'm the author of The Anxiety Solution and Brave New Girl. On today's PodcastAnd today, on the podcast, I've got the wonderful Julia Samuel, MBE, who is a psychotherapist, and she's also the author of two books; Grief Works, and her latest book, This Too Shall Pass, which is all about how to navigate changes. And you know, we're so scared of change, aren’t we? On one hand, we really want change, we want transformation. And on the other hand, how many of us can get stuck keeping things the same because change just feels too scary, and it feels safer to stick with what we know even though it's uncomfortable. So, wetalked about this whole topic of change. We discussed what's known as thefertile void, and I love how Julia explains this and how we can cultivate thisin our lives, and it can help us to handle changes in our lives. We talkedabout how business stops us from healing and what we need to do instead. Wealso get into the topic of grief and what to say to someone who's grieving andhow to handle that yourself about something that's affecting you at the moment.We also touch on the particular struggles that millennials and those of asimilar generation face. So, I want to let you know that I have some freeresources for confidence, self-esteem, and anxiety. If you want to grab thosefreebies, head over to my website, CalmerYou.com/Free, and I'll send you lots of resources, worksheets,downloads, updates about the podcast. Head over to CalmerYou.com/Free. So, let's get into the interview with Julia Samuel.Welcome, Julia. Thank you so much for joining me. How are you today? Julia:Really well. Lovely to meet you, Chloe. Chloe: Couldyou please share with us what it is that you do and how you came to do the workthat you do today? More about Julia SamuelJulia: So, I'm a psychotherapist and I've been a psychotherapist for 30 years. 25 years I worked in the NHS at a big NHS hospital supporting families when babies died and children died. So, I was the counselor for pediatrics and maternity. From there, I helped started or established and launched a charity called Child Bereavement UK, which was supporting families when a child died or when a child's bereaved. From there, I sort of taught a lot and lectured a lot. I've gone into private practice in the last few years, about the last five years. And I wrote another book before and this is my second book. So, I'm a seasoned therapist and a new author. So, one is kind of an old hat and the other feels exciting and scary. And I'm not even sure I can call myself an author. Chloe:Amazing. And I can't imagine work more, I don’t know, intense than working withpeople that have lost a child. I think that's incredible that you've done thatwork. What was that like?

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