All The President's Minutes is a podcast where conversations about movies, journalism, politics and history meet. Each show we use the seminal and increasingly prescient 1976 film All The President's Men as a portal, to engage with the themes and the warnings of the film resonating since its release. For minute 42, I join Oeuvre Busters dynamic duo of Emmy-nominated media maker Liam Billingham and poet/academic George Fragopoulos. Liam, George and I discuss Zodiac way too much, the optimism of this movie feeling alien in the contemporary political context and text reviews of President's that begin with "Redford is an adonis."

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