All The President's Minutes is a podcast where conversations about movies, journalism, politics and history meet. Each show we use the seminal and increasingly prescient 1976 film All The President's Men as a portal, to engage with the themes and the warnings of the film resonating since its release. For minute 41, I join Sydney-based writer/director/producer/editor, Michael McLennan. Michael and I discuss entering the paranoia genre with Oliver Stone's "Nixon" and "The X-Files," the intimidation of an offscreen and unseen antagonist, the burgeoning optimism in the text and always finding a way back to talking about Michael Mann.

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