We’re staring into the abyss of 2021's The Old Ways to see what will stare back. The film’s writer, Marcos Gabriel joins us to discuss the film’s use of trauma, addiction and recovery. Along with some of its more horrifying imagery and breaking exorcism predictions. Plus, find out how Kermit the Frog is at the center of everything. Music for this episode comes courtesy of Kevin MacLeod (https://bit.ly/agktheme) & Purple Planet (https://bit.ly/ppcoms).

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