This episode was recorded on Feb 14th, 2021

Jonathan Pageau and I discuss, among other topics, the issue of conscience, narrative with objective reality, perfect mode of being, the responsibility to move things towards the divine, the inevitability of religion, significance of the virgin birth, Theosis, the idea of heaven, and more.

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