I was reached out to by my friend Makenzie Marzluff, a heart centered entrepreneur, and founder of (among other things) co-founder of my favorite cacao brand “Kakao”. Makenzie and I wanted to explore this question based on her own experience, and though the question itself can sound a little controversial, the conversation she and I had was inspiring and I believe her perspective is a valuable and important one. 

Enjoy this week’s episode and I absolutely completely invite your thoughts and reflecti

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