Sam Fry speaks to Eric Forman, an artist that works in the intersections between fine art, design, architecture, and technology.

For nearly twenty years, Eric's work has used playful interaction to reveal issues of language, simulation, and perception. Underneath all is an investigation of the uncertain present of human and technological co-evolution: the overlappings of natural and artificial, real and simulated, person and machine.

In the episode Sam and Eric talk about the relationship between humans and technology. They speak about Eric's background as well as a number of artistic and design projects he has worked on, including Heart Squared - a large installation that was recently displayed in the middle of Times Square.

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