Gina Morello … No Roof On Your Dreams

Key Links video   Thank you to my Patrons…Phillip Jones, William Schelling, , Thor Pedersen, Steph Rowe, Adam Hickman, Bisa Myles & Ted Nims.  You can purchase them today on Amazon.     And now, you can listen to ! And Alexa!   And write a review! Check out our friend: .  They organize international rallies around the world, including Sri Lanka, Cambodia, the Philippines, and the Amazon.  And watch my full-length when I traveled with Large Minority.   Gina and I met at the Principality of Sealand in the summer of 2019 during the Extreme Travelers International Congress.  And I have been following her travels since that time on social media.  She is one of the few women who have completed the quest of chasing 193 and she is accomplished this feat during the Covid pandemic.            Before we speak with Gina, we have an extra special with Babis Bizas who appeared originally on Episode 49.  Babis has been traveling since 1976 and is the first person to travel every country in the world twice.  Babis has named the 2020 Traveler Of The Year and he shares with us who that is.  Thanks to my patrons Phillip Jones, Thor - Once Upon A Saga - Pedersen, , William Schelling, Steph Rowe, Ted Nims, Bisa Myles, and Adam Hickman for supporting Counting Countries. They help pay for the production of this podcast.  You can support this podcast by going to .   My patrons recently heard a special interview for over 30 minutes with Babis Bizas on why he is supporter of William Baekeland.  Fascinating conversation.  My patrons will hear the final part of my conversation with Gina.    As a reminder, Counting Countries, will be published every other month.  As always I remind you to subscribe wherever you listen and write a review. Check out the new .  Rick Shaver former guest in Canada is sporting his new Counting Countries shirt.         As a reminder, I want to share a video I just published on Youtube, I am hoping to get feedback from the extreme traveler community.  The video titled, , is a deep dive into an eternal debate within the community.  Take a look, and tell me if you think I am right or wrong.      Gina’s travel style over the years transformed over time from a two trip to Europe as a grad school student to traversing the Road of Bones in Siberia in the dead of winter.  Gina was planning on completing her quest in 2020 until Covid initially interrupted her goals.  She completes her goal by visiting her last country with a moving visit to , a foundation empowering girls and women.    Gina was in Nairobi while I was recording in Bangkok.  Please listen in and enjoy.     About Counting Countries Counting Countries is the only podcast to bring you the stories from the dedicated few who’ve spent their lives on the singular quest of traveling to every country in the world. Fewer people have traveled to every country in the world than have been to outer space. Theme music for this podcast is Demeter’s Dance, written, performed, and provided by . About GlobalGaz Ric Gazarian is the host of Counting Countries. He is the author of three books: , , and .  He is the producer of two travel documentaries: and .  Ric is also on his own quest to visit every country in the world. You can see where he has and keep up with his journey at .   Well…that depends on who you ask! The United Nations states that there are. The British Foreign and Commonwealth office states that there are. The Traveler’s Century Club states that there are. The Most Traveled Person states that there are. The Nomad Mania SISO says there are. Me? My goal is the 193 countries that are recognized by the UN, but I am sure I will visit some other places along the way. Disclaimer: I will earn a fee if you order from Amazon/Agoda. Or book a trip through G Adventures.  PS  Thanks ---- More details at: ----- Produced by